On January 12, we launched Into the Breach — our new podcast series that showcases cyber stories told by the people who’ve lived them. In episode one, Lured to the Dark Side, I talk with a former BBC journalist who shared his experience profiling two criminal teen hackers who’d been arrested and then given a second shot at life. Each of them had a significant brush with the law, and today they’re using their superpowers for good, and both working for legit organizations as security pros whose aim is to keep the bad guys (and gals) out of networks.

Part two of Lured to the Dark Side features Nick Rossmann, threat intelligence brain trust whose dossier includes leading a world-class team of threat intelligence professionals, a stint at the C.I.A. and a position at the F.B.I. Nick gives us a behind-the-scenes look at what we know about threat actors: how they develop talent, where they operate, and how they’re evolving to put the “organized” in “organized crime.” He also shares the story of how his team uncovered training videos from an Iranian threat group and helped law enforcement take the group down, and gives us his prediction of what we might see next from the world of cybercrime.

Join me, and together we’ll venture Into the Breach. Listen to this podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you find your favorite audio content.

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